The Problem We All Live With: The Story of an Iconic Illustration
Film Screening and Panel Discussion
November 15, 2025
Screening: 11 a.m.
Panel Discussion: 12 p.m.
Williams Research Center
410 Chartres Street
Free admission, registration required
To mark the 65th anniversary of school desegregation in New Orleans, the Historic New Orleans Collection is excited to host the Norman Rockwell MuseumOpens in new tab’s screening of The Problem We All Live With: The Story of an Iconic Illustration.
The film recounts the experiences of Ruby Bridges, Gail Etienne, Tessie Prevost, and Leona Tate, whose first steps into all-white schools became a defining moment of the Civil Rights Movement. The documentary also explores Rockwell’s artistic process as well as the role of Lynda Gunn, who modeled for the painting,Opens in new tab and considers broader questions of truth, memory, and power in visual storytelling.
Following the screening, join us for a panel discussion featuring Eric Seiferth, HNOC curator and historian; Barbara-Shae Jackson, PhD, Research Scientist, Slover Linett at NORC at the University of Chicago; and Margot Yale, Project Research Advisor for Interpretation, Norman Rockwell Museum.
Panelists
Barbara-Shae Jackson, PhD
Barbara-Shae Jackson, PhD
Barbara-Shae Jackson, PhD, led the project’s New Orleans community0based research, serving as primary interviewer and cofacilitator of workshops. A research scientist with Slover Linett at NORC at the University of Chicago, she holds a PhD in cognitive psychology from the University of Alabama, where her dissertation explored how aesthetic experience, cognition, race, and racism intersect. At Slover Linett at NORC, Jackson partners with cultural organizations to deepen connections with marginalized communities. She designs and leads mixed-methods research that amplifies marginalized voices—boldly, authentically, and with intentionality. She equips cultural institutions to advance equity by making space for diverse storytelling toward the goal of both narrative and narrator change.
Eric Seiferth
Eric Seiferth
Eric Seiferth is curator and historian at the Historic New Orleans Collection (HNOC). He is the project lead on the NOLA Resistance initiative to preserve and share stories of the New Orleans Civil Rights Movement, and lead curator of the associated exhibition The Trail They Blazed. He was also lead curator of the award-winning exhibition Captive State: Louisiana and the Making of Mass Incarceration. He earned his BA and MA in American history from Tulane University.
Margot Yale
Margot Yale
Margot Yale served as project research advisor. In this role, she authored biographical sketches of the New Orleans Four, conducted archival research and interviews in New Orleans, evaluated existing scholarship on the racialized history of public education in New Orleans, and developed a corresponding timeline of the 1960 school desegregation crisis. She also researched how the story told about the Rockwell painting has evolved since its creation. Yale is currently an Andrew W. Mellon Fellow in the modern and contemporary art department at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and an independent curator with a community-based practice. She is a PhD candidate at the University of Southern California, where her dissertation examines why leftist women artists sought out institutional support from multiracial labor schools in the United States in the 1940s and 1950s.
Support
Special thanks to Kathryn Potts and Richard Bradway of the Norman Rockwell Museum.
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